"Freedom is the right to tell people what they do
not want to hear."
- George Orwell
I am an atheist. I do not believe in the
existence of God.
God may or may not exist. I can neither prove
that God exists, nor prove that he doesn't. However, in the absence of positive
proof that God does exist I will not believe in him. God may exist, but I don't
know that he exists, therefore I do not believe in God. I am not
categorically saying that God does not exist, simply
that it is meaningless to talk about believing in something when you don't know
for certain whether it exists or not. In a sense, therefore, I am also an
agnostic.
Throughout this text I will refer to those
who believe in a God, or Gods of any kind, as theists. This discussion is
intended to be general and will therefore not address any religions in particular
but merely the concept of God (which is common to most of the world's
religions, with the notable exception of Buddhism). I will refer to God as ‘He’ throughout this text, even though ascribing a gender to a supreme being is
completely meaningless, because it is traditional to do so. The text is in the
format of a series of points made to me by religious friends of mine with whom
I have discussed religious belief, and my refutations of these points.
1. If God does not exist, prove it to me.
2. If God didn’t create the Universe where does it come from?
3. If God does not exist why do so many people believe in God?
How can all these people be wrong?
4. You cannot treat God as an object - God is an abstract
concept.
5. God is in everything and everything is in God.
6. But I can feel God in me and in everything around me.
7. What about Soul? What happens to your Soul when you die?
8. What about all these amazing occurrences?
9. Without religion and belief in God the world would be an anarchy.
10. Why do this? Why can you not respect other people's
opinions?
1. The problem
of evil.
2. The incompatibility of the concepts
of fate, free will and God's omniscience.
3. Can God change the rules of logic? Can God make 2+2=5? How do
you define omnipotence?
4. Why do you think that you are special?
5. God is defined anthropomorphically.
6. Assume that God created the Universe. Well, then
how?
1. If God does NOT exist, then prove
it to me.
Proof by elimination - if you can't prove that God doesn't exist, then therefore God does exist. This may seem fair enough. However, it is patently impossible to prove that God does not exist if one assumes that God is omniscient and omnipotent. If I were to come up with any convincing proof of God's non-existence it would be perfectly reasonable, given the definition of God above, for a theist to retort that God is merely letting me come up with that proof (because he is omnipotent) to test me.
The important point is that there is no proof that God does exist either. In the absence of positive proof for the existence of something one cannot merely assume it's existence. If I were to tell you that the screen you are reading at the moment is not merely a screen, despite its appearance, but actually conceals an advanced video-camera being used to spy on you, you probably wouldn't believe me. You would probably, quite reasonably, ask me to prove it. I could, however, just as easily ask you to prove to me that that screen didn't contain an advanced spying device. The obvious rejoinder would be to say that it looked like computer screen. I then claim that the device is cunningly concealed. You may then go through a whole series of scientific tests - taking the screen apart, analysing its components. You still find no evidence for this spy device. No matter, I say - there is no way that you will be able to detect it because it is cloaked by a 29th century cloaking device. Now you are stuck. Because of the nature of my defence it is absolutely impossible to prove that this screen is not a cloaked spying device.
The theist's defence of God is exactly the same. If I look at the Universe I do not see God, I merely see the Universe. You tell me that there is, in fact, a God out there, even though I cannot see one. There is no scientific evidence for the existence of a God (the equivalent of the tests I just proposed on the piece of screen) so I still do not believe you. However, I cannot disprove your assertion simply because of the way you have defined the problem. It clearly makes no more sense for me to believe that there is a God than it does for you to believe that your computer screen is a cloaked spying device.
2. If God didn't create the
Universe where does it come from?
I do not know where the Universe came from.
Neither do you, hence your need to postulate God as having created it. I then
ask you - where did God come from? You, as a theist, will then tell me that God
does not need to be created, he just is. Now to me, thinking rationally, this
seems merely to be complicating the problem unnecessarily. I do not understand
where the Universe came from so I postulate the existence of something else to
explain the Universe which, in turn, I cannot explain. Following that argument
I could end up with an infinite series of Gods, which is simply an absurd way
to deal with the problem (besides which there is absolutely no evidence to
support such a thesis). Why not just say that the Universe itself did not need
to be created, rather than move the problem up a level? It is meaningless to
concoct a rule - that everything needs a creator - and then, arbitrarily, to
make God an exception to it.
If one does not understand a problem and has
no information upon which to base a judgement of the
problem then it is meaningless to make up a theory about it and just assume it
valid until someone proves you wrong. By doing that you are pretending to know
something that you do not and you lose the drive to understand the problem.
Surely it is better simply to admit that you do not understand the problem and
try and advance your knowledge by meticulous research. Not only do you edge
closer to a real understanding of the problem, but you will probably discover
many interesting things in the process. This is how science and technology
advances (notwithstanding Thomas Kuhn's "The structure of scientific
revolutions").
3. If God does not exist
why do so many people believe in God? How can all these people be wrong?
The vast majority of people do believe in
God, it is true. But so what? Let me turn this question around. Why do you
believe in God? Where did the belief come from? Were you born with it?
No.
Everyone, in a practical sense, is born an
atheist. A baby knows nothing. It has no conception of God, or it's mother, or even the fact that it is an infant human
being. Knowledge and awareness come from experience. People, in general, gain
their religious beliefs from their upbringing. If this were not true
demographers (population statistics scientists) would not be able to draw those
pretty coloured maps you see in most atlases and
geography textbooks showing the distribution of world Religions. Religion is
commonly taught in school, religious practice is entrenched in society and even
in those people who are not 'religious' the idea that there is a God in the
sense of some kind of 'higher reality' is nonetheless very common.
I am not claiming that all the people who
believe in God are stupid. Religion is a social phenomenon, and social
phenomena are very difficult to change. Let us take another example. Until
relatively recently it has been almost universally believed (in all cultures,
though some often deny it) that men are intellectually superior to women. There
has, throughout history, been a male role and a female role, and the male role
has always been dominant. Even today this is largely the case (how many Heads
of State are female?). To most of us today this attitude is not just patently
wrong, it appears to be plain stupid. Using the argument that since time
immemorial man has always believed that there is some higher force and that
therefore such a force MUST exist one is forced to conclude that the
historically inferior position of women, too, must be valid. Changing the
latter attitude has not been easy and over the last 2 centuries though a lot
has been achieved in setting the myth of inborn female inferiority to rest the
problem still exists. Changing beliefs about religion is no less difficult,
people are changing. But it is happening slowly, and it is a struggle.
Just to further illustrate the silliness of
this argument, let us consider the flat earth model.
The earth basically appears flat when you look at it (if you don't consider
'the horizon'). This had long been considered to be the case until Ferdinand
Magellan proved that it was not true by sailing all the way around the planet.
Even then he wasn't believed. The Catholic Church denied his claims (as they
later did when they jailed Galileo Galilei for
advocating the hypothesis that the Earth orbits the Sun). It took a long time
for the socially imprinted notion of a flat Earth, or the Earth as the Centre
of the Universe, to wear off. Yet it is ridiculous to claim that all these
people were just stupid. Society and received wisdom are very powerful forces
upon human thought, especially in the uneducated. One tends to find that in
religious societies the prevalence of atheistic and agnostic religious beliefs
in highly educated groups is much higher than it is in the general population.
4. You cannot treat God as
an object - God is an abstract concept. We are an aspect of this abstract
concept, in the same sense that say happiness is an aspect of Mind (another
abstract concept). Nature too is an abstract concept. Do you deny that Nature
and Mind exist?
What is Nature? Nature is a descriptive term
for the complex interactions of all the life-forms, environments, forces, laws
of physics and events that are beyond mankind's control. Mind is similarly an
abstract concept that describes the complex interactions of all the neurones of the human brain that together are responsible
for such properties as perception, memory, thought and emotion. Both these
abstract concepts do not intrinsically exist. They are not entities in
themselves. They exist only in that they are an emergent property of a complex
interactive system. Mathematically similar (though much less complex)
situations are beginning to be explained by chaos and complexity theory. If one
were to liken God to nature and the mind then that implies that, without the
Universe, God cannot exist, because God is a property of the Universe. How can
an emergent property of the Universe then be responsible for its creation?
5. God is in everything and everything is in God.
This statement is nonsensical. It is a
tautology - it merely says that "everything is everything", but in a
few more words. If you think about it, it doesn't actually mean anything,
except equating God with the Universe and we have already dealt with that in
the first point. This view of God is known as pantheism.
6. But I can feel God in me
and in everything around me.
You can feel God. Fine.
But what does that say about reality? Your emotions do not affect external
reality and to assume that they do is to take a very self-centred view of the Universe. As the 19th century German philosopher Friedrich
Nietzsche once said, "A stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith
does not prove anything". The fact that a schizophrenic believes that
everyone wants to kill him does not prove that this is in fact the case. And
how different are you from a schizophrenic. They have a chemical imbalance in
their brain which is responsible for the unusual belief systems. However, no
brain is the same, and to some extent one could say that everyone has a
chemical imbalance in their brain. Your faith, your beliefs and your feelings
are no more valid as an indicator of external reality than a schizophrenic's.
Secondly, even if you can extrapolate from
the subjective experience of what you feel to the objective nature of reality,
then what is there to say that your subjective feelings about God are any more
valid than mine? There is clearly not just the one feeling about God on this
planet, and this simple fact totally invalidates the argument. God cannot be a
pantheist's omnipresent higher reality at the same time as being, to a young
Christian child, a tall, bearded father figure and to an atheist an a priori
non-existent being. The ideas are logically inconsistent.
7. What about Soul? What
happens to your Soul when you die?
What is soul? What do you mean by it? Most people are vague about this but usually use the term to mean human personality. Where does human personality come from? There is overwhelming evidence to suggest that it is a property of the brain. If you damage areas of the brain here you can grossly alter someone's personality. When you die what happens to your brain? It rots.... that's pretty serious damage. Starved of oxygen your brain cells die, and the electrical impulses and chemical transmissions between the cells of your brain that are what constitutes your thoughts, your knowledge, your memories, your emotions and your personality cease to exist also. As a 'person' you no longer exist. And there is nothing of your 'soul' left.
Secondly, if you believe in an immortal soul, what is it that is becoming immortal? We have just shown that 'what you are' - your beliefs, personality, feelings etc. - cease to exist after death. Is there some mechanism which carries these complex attributes away to the after-life? Well, what is it? How can one claim that such an amazing event occurs and then not even begin to try and explain how? Furthermore, your 'soul' is not constant during life. Which soul is preserved in eternity? Your soul at 6? 16? 60? Whatever stage your soul is at when you die? What if you die after developing schizophrenia? Is it the pre-schizophrenic soul that becomes eternal or is it the schizophrenic? From one moment to another you are never the same person.
If soul is something deeper than beliefs, personality and feelings, what do you mean? Beliefs, personality and feelings are what make you individual as a person. If you mean that something deeper is preserved then you as an individual are not preserved, it is merely some universal common factor in all people and so it is not 'your' soul but just some general 'life force'. Such a 'life force' is a totally discredited concept, completely negated by the quantum leaps made in the 20th century in the modern sciences of molecular and cellular biology.
And then there are further questions to be answered, many of which are not even considered by those who believe in an afterlife. What does this soul do when it is made eternal? What does it mean to be eternal? Does it get reincarnated? If so, what aspect of a person is reincarnated? A person's beliefs, personality and feelings are affected profoundly by their life experiences. No two people, let alone two people living in different ages, are going to have the same life experiences, so how can you say that they have the same (reincarnated) soul? Or is it just the karma - the relative weights of your good and bad actions - that is brought across into this new life? If you believe that the soul becomes one with God what does that actually mean? How can one believe in such a complex notion, without any evidence, without considering all these questions?
The vast majority of people who believe in such things do so without even the vaguest conception of what they mean. In summary, there is little point in worrying about an afterlife, when there is nothing around to do the 'afterliving'.
People go through life noticing coincidences. These experiences are unusual and so make an impression and so people remember them. You go through life collecting these memorable coincidences and forgetting all the times when amazing things don't happen. When these coincidences are collected together in books on the supernatural, or UFOs etc the weight of these coincidences seems very persuasive, but one MUST consider the number of times these coincidences didn't happen. Situations contrive to produce coincidences. In addition, a lot of these occurrences are often proven to be hoaxes. People, unfortunately, are very gullible. There is a society in England which offers a reward for any evidence whatsoever for any supernatural occurrence, however small. Not one person has come forward to claim this prize. One must ask oneself why? Why is it that no mystic or astrologer or clairvoyant has ever had their abilities proven by the scientists (parapsychologists) who interest themselves in these phenomena. Public interest in these matters is so great that any proof of this would spread through the media like wildfire.
Chance, luck and randomness are amazing things, and sometimes so amazing that it is very difficult for humans to put freak occurrences down to chance. But randomness is inherent in nature, enshrined in the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. Even Albert Einstein, possibly the greatest scientist who ever lived, spent much of the latter half of his life trying to refute the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle and much of the rest of the Quantum Mechanics (the field of physics that describes the interactions of very small particles), making the oft-quoted remark "God does not play dice". He was eventually forced to admit that he was wrong and accept the theories. If he was wrong about that, he could have been (and, in my opinion was) wrong about his belief in the existence of God.
9. Without religion and
belief in God the world would be an anarchy.
An interesting and commonly
expressed idea, this. The argument
in itself contains its own refutation, for it implies that religion functions
as a tool of social control. The inhumanity of this attitude was well condemned by Albert Einstein, so I shall use his words:
"A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectively on sympathy, education and social ties; no
religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be
restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
Religious compassion, if it is motivated
purely for the above reasons, is merely a hypocritical form of pious
selfishness. Obviously, this is not usually case. Mother Teresa, for example,
clearly had a genuine concern for the suffering of those she and her Sisters in
the "Missionaries of Charity" helped in
How many people have been killed in the name
of religion?
The notion that a Godless society is an evil
society is naïve and patronising. To care for another
human, to care for all other humans, simply because of their humanity - purely
out of compassion is surely the greater good.
This is a very simple thing to explain - you
cannot have a subjective opinion about reality. Reality is either one thing or
the other. God can either exist or not exist. The existence of something is a
matter of logic. It is not a thing like beauty. People may have any number of
opinions on whether, say, "
A further point is that no opinion deserves
respect purely on the basis that someone holds it. Many (in fact, from my own
experience, most) people hold opinions which they have simply inherited from
other sources and have not really examined for themselves. Such an uncriticised opinion is worthless, as is an opinion that
does not stand up to scrutiny. Is it necessary to accept Adolf
Hitler's opinion of the Jewish community solely on the basis that it is his
opinion?
Most people who are religious believe in the
existence of evil. Even if you don't believe in the existence of evil there is
the obvious question of suffering.
A central tenet of Christianity, Islam and
Judaism is that there is one God. He is all powerful, all knowing and all good.
If someone is suffering, then, how can a good God allow that suffering to
continue? If a human being has the means to help someone who is suffering and
fails to do so we would certainly not call him wholly good.
God is aware of the suffering of all human
beings. From that of a young child sold into bonded labour
in a Pakistani carpet factory to that of a millionaire dying of cancer in an
American private hospital to that of the woman who is beaten every evening by
her drunken husband. All these things he knows. He also knows how to stop it
from happening, since he is all-knowing, and can do so, since he is
all-powerful. If he is all good then he should WANT to do so. So why doesn't
he?
No God who can permit such suffering (and of
course there are much more intense forms of suffering than those I have
described above) when he has the ability to stop it can be considered to be
good. God, under this scrutiny, has failed to live up to even the most basic
moral standards. The statements 'God is omnipotent. God is wholly good. Evil
exists.' are logically inconsistent.
2. The
incompatibility of the concepts of fate, free will and God's omniscience.
Western religions - Islam, Christianity, Judaism - believe in the concept of judgement.
We will, when we die, be judged upon on our behaviour
on Earth. This implies that we have free will - God made us free to make our
own decisions, or else how could he judge us?
This, however, begs a further question. If
God is omniscient he knows everything. Absolutely everything that you ever have
done, are doing and will do. In a sense, therefore, you cannot really have any
free will at all - in that since God knows 'the future' nothing you do with
your 'free will' makes any difference. The future is predetermined because is
it is already known (to God). For the theist, therefore, everything, logically,
must be determined by 'fate'. Hence, it begs the question, if you don't have
any real choice in your life, how can you be judged on the basis of the way you
live it?
Again, we have to cope with inconsistency.
The notions of an omniscient God and human free will are logically
inconsistent. And yet the theist claims both to be true.
3. Can God change the rules
of logic? Can God make 2+2=5? How do you define omnipotence?
This may seem like a silly question, but it
isn't. 2 + 2 can never be 5. Unless you change the meaning of the word "five" to mean 4, in which case 2 + 2 is still 4, but you are just
calling 4 by another name. To quote Shakespeare, "A rose by any other name
would smell as sweet." 4 apples are 4 apples, even if
you choose to call them 5 apples, 6 apples, or 25 apples. The semantics
doesn't alter the reality.
If I have 2 apples in one hand and 2 apples
in another hand is it possible for them, by the simple act of considering them
together, to become in reality 5 apples? I doubt that anyone could seriously
argue that they could (though someone, I'm sure, will do so just to prove me
wrong). So we cannot simply say that God is omnipotent. We must say that God is
omnipotent, but constrained by the rules of logic. So is logic an external
truth created by God that he then had to obey? Or does logic exist
independently of God?
If God must obey the simple rules of logic,
perhaps he must also obey the rules of Science. It is arguable (and I would
argue) that Science is merely an extension of logic. The laws of Science, in
our experience (and what else do we have upon which to base our knowledge but
our experience), are as immutable, as unbreakable as the laws of simple
arithmetic. It is just as impossible for an apple I drop to float over the
Earth, or for light to escape from a Black Hole, or, for example, for Jesus to
have fed the 5,000 with his limited amount of bread and fish as it is for 2 + 2
to equal 5. So God becomes just a silent observer - a parody of a God, helpless
to interfere in the world as a consequence of the laws he himself created. Enslaved by his own creation like Frankenstein by his monster.
This view, that God merely created the Universe and after that left it to it's own devices, is known as Deism. It is the only
logically consistent form of theism.
4. Why do you think that
you are special?
People often do not look at themselves
relative to the enormity of the universe. You are one of about 6 billion humans
on the planet at present. The planet Earth is merely one of 9 large bodies that
orbit the Sun, a medium-sized star in one arm of the spiral galaxy known as the
Milky Way. The Milky Way contains some 400 billion such stars together with
pulsars, black holes and all kinds of wondrous objects. And then there are all
the other galaxies in the Universe, approximately 100 billion of them, with an
average of 100 billion stars each. And new stars are forming all the time. The
Universe is continually expanding, from it's starting
point at the Big Bang.
How significant are you? Why do most
religions assume that we, on this planet - one species of a million - are
chosen? And why do we assume that we are the height of evolution? Admittedly we
are by far the most complex organisms upon this planet, particularly in brain
structure and function. However evolution hasn't just come to an end - it is a
continuous process, although it is somewhat complicated by the fact that
mankind doesn't just need to adapt to its environment but adapts its
environment to suit its own needs.
5. God is defined
anthropomorphically.
According to Christianity, Judaism and Islam,
God made man in his own image. What can that
mean? Is there really a God out there who is humanoid? Why should he be
humanoid? What possible function could eyes, ears and
a nose - organs of sensory experience - serve a God who knows everything
anyway? Does God have an appendix? These questions are, of course, rather
frivolous, but there is a deeper point.
God is held to be totally good. God is held
to be kind, compassionate. To forgive (at least by
Christians). The God of Western Religion demands praise and worship. He
visits suffering on those who 'sin'. There is a pattern here. In this sense God
is defined very anthropomorphically. Kindness, compassion and goodness are all
human properties. Certainly demanding praise, and
exacting punishment are human qualities, and certainly not qualities which are
praiseworthy in a human, so why should they be so in God?
The very fact that we describe God
anthropomorphically suggests that we created him. Or at least
ascribed to him attributes which he does not, and cannot, have. It's
like someone saying that they think that their pet goldfish is happy.
Goldfishes are not capable of being happy, they don't have the neural circuits
in their minute brains to do so (they, famously, only have 5 second memories
anyway - even if they were happy they'd forget what they were happy about
pretty damn quickly!).
6. Assume that I accept
that God created the Universe. Well, then how? Surely, even if we assume this
hypothesis to be true, we should try and find a mechanism.
Even if we were to accept there was a God
that really makes no difference to the questions I ask about the origin of the
Universe, where it came from and why it is the way it is. To say that "God
did it" is the vaguest possible answer, like identifying the killer in a "whodunnit" thriller but without supplying
motive or means. Sherlock Holmes would not be impressed. Any 'believer' should
surely be interested in how God did it. If one saw a magician produce a rabbit
from a hat, and one was convinced that this wasn't just a trick, that it didn't
just seem that the rabbit had been brought out of an empty hat but that in fact
a rabbit had been materialised out of thin
air, then any intelligent human being would surely not just sit there and say "Wow! He created a rabbit out of thin air". He or she would want to
find out exactly how this magician made this rabbit appear. And so it should be
with the notion of God's creation of the Universe, for this is surely the
greatest conjuring trick in history. Of course, I do not believe in the
existence of the magician.
God is Dead
"God is dead. God remains dead. And we
have killed him. How shall we, the murderers of all murderers, console
ourselves? That which was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet
possessed has bled to death under our knives - who will wipe this blood off us?
With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what
sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too
great for us? Must not we ourselves become gods simply to seem worth of it?
There has never been a greater deed - and whoever shall be born after us, for
the sake of this deed he shall be part of a higher history than all history
hitherto."
- Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900); from "The Gay
Science", 1882.
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